Talking with my Guru


G: What do you mean by emptiness?

Me: I mean nothing.

G: Then why are we discussing it?
Take your tiny Tao shears
and snip emptiness out of Webster’s
and heave it into the void.  It’s another
self-serving tool like time
and collateral damage

Cut wood, draw water
and stop sound-biting life to death
—and travel light (and lightly)
until no sun remains

nothing and emptiness
are for advanced students
with nothing to choose
gain or lose

Jim Culleny
October 2007


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