Talking with my Guru


G: What do you mean by emptiness?

Me: I mean nothing.

G: Then why are we discussing it?
Take your tiny Tao shears
and snip emptiness out of Webster’s
and heave it into the void.  It’s another
self-serving tool like time
and collateral damage

Cut wood, draw water
and stop sound-biting life to death
—and travel light (and lightly)
until no sun remains

nothing and emptiness
are for advanced students
with nothing to lose

Jim Culleny
October 2007


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